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ok so i am not someone who is good at the thinks OR the words.

but.

tma and romanticism, right.

specifically, the preoccupation in romanticism with interiority, the autobiographical, and the self.

so, i mean, let’s just get it out of the way that the author quite literally named his protagonist directly after himself to the point where the fandom in general has unilaterally adopted “jon” for character and “jonny” for author so as to lessen the potential confusion.

(also, a point here, this is not in any way intended as a read on jonny as a person, what he does and doesn’t put out is his business and he has every right to privacy and space. i’m just. analysing romanticism. moving on.)

i’ve been thinking a great deal about how the whole plot is given in this... adjacent-to-epistolary style? like we are constantly reminded that we are being read a statement that was given on paper -- i’m reminded specifically of all the statements that refer to gertrude and later jon in the second person. it’s a conversation where the speaker is always both observing and observed. or perhaps beholding and beheld.

something that really strengthens this theme to me is how versatile jon’s statement-giver-voices are. like i think that in-universe is beautifully addressed through it literally being a supernatural influence that enables/forces him to read the statements in this way, but i think it’s also in a meta sense a really interesting point for rumination: when a statement is being read, and we hear “i”, how much of that is the “i” of the person giving their statement? how much of it is jon internalising their trauma? how much of it is the “i” of the eye (ha ha) as it steals bits of the statement giver’s personhood?

i think this is something that’s strengthened even more by the fact that as time goes on, the process does become so much more... self-involved? like contrast: mag 22 and 26, where martin and sasha both give their statements in very conversational ways, mag 32 where although jane is addressing gertrude in a very direct, self-aware manner, she’s really just letting her thoughts -- or her fear -- run, and mag 81 and 104, where because we’ve spent so much time with jon and tim by now, it is, to my mind, a very different, much more... personal version of fear. like by that point to me we’re much beyond anthological spooky stories and into glimpses into the psychologies of people who we’ve become painfully aware are deeply, deeply broken and traumatised.

another really fascinating manifestation of this aspect of romantic style to me is the preoccupation both in the narrative and in fandom with smirke’s 14 + the extinction: i think it’s a really normal but also really fun thing to do to sort yourself into neat boxes, and i think it’s very Romantic that it’s such a major part of the story. not only because it gives such an interesting and potentially complex shorthand for what sort of person each statement giver and avatar likely is, but because it provides such a cool potential for the audience to do the same thing.

i love listening to people discussing which entity is the one they’re most afraid of, and of which they think they’d be most likely to become an avatar. it’s similar to a lot of personality-sorting methods: i think you can tell just as much, if not more, about someone by hearing how they assess and categorise themselves.

along a similar vein, and this is based largely on my personal experience/thoughts, but it’s a sentiment i’ve heard echoed by a lot of people: this type of horror that is so personal and human can make for a fantastic framework for self-examination. i don’t know, of course, whether that was built in intentionally or if it’s a side effect of tma being such a cohesively romantic piece of writing/media overall, but using it as a way to, as an audience member, look at yourself can be so gratifying and so cathartic. i know in the group of people i talk to frequently, we facetiously refer to doing this, but in all sincerity, i could write a post ten times longer than this one about how much i love martin on account of his helping me see so many things about myself in a new way. and intentional or not, i think it’s a really fascinating aspect of tma.

(note: yes i realise i have not examined ol’ fuckhands in this post despite how relevant they are, but oh boy that is a whole ‘nother post that it is too late at night for me to write rn lmao)

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hiiii i'm asking about basira as a dark/eye avatar💕

GOD IM SO GLAD I THOUGHT YOU'D NEVER ASK (just kidding i knew it would be u <3)

so like. here's the thing right.

  • so she interrupts the dark ritual obvi.
  • and works at the institute
  • one can definitely argue for her also being very touched by the hunt and that's extremely valid but i have Other Thoughts abt that entity. so. another time.
  • so you know that theory about how if you swapped out shakespearean tragic heroes, their stories wouldn’t be tragedies anymore? (e.g., if you swapped othello and hamlet, othello would just kill claudius and be done with it, thereby avoiding an awful lot of heartache, and hamlet would exercise enough restraint not to, like, listen to iago and murder his wife.)

    that made me have some thoughts about agnes, gerry, and jon.

    first off, while i think there are definitely parallels between agnes and jon, i don’t think they’re exactly mirrors of one another -- and i think gerry is an important third part of that particular comparison. i think all three characters suffer from a misalignment of two things: knowledge and time.

    gerry, both as an eye avatar and as the son of someone like mary, has plenty of knowledge. the issue is, though, knowing things can’t really prevent an imminently fatal brain tumour. but i think gerry gets to act with agency that is at least partially borne of knowledge. i mean, certainly when you compare him to jon and agnes. it’s not enough, but of the three, he seems to be the one who sort of came closest to anything actually resembling escape.

    agnes feels like something of a mid-point with these two factors: she has more information than jon, and more time than gerry, but the problem in her case is the fact that the information she does have is not enough to leverage against her situation. i think from mag 67 it’s pretty clear that she would, if she’d had any way to (or if jack had been conveniently eye-touched or resistant to heat damage, or if gertrude hadn’t been so focused and had tried to help her -- though i think there’s an argument for gertrude’s culpability in the ultimate fates of all three of these characters)

    and then there’s poor ill-fated jon. he does, technically, have time, but without knowledge, it’s as good as racing against a clock that hasn’t even been set yet. when something is a universal constant and an inevitability, there’s little point in counting down to it. it must happen, it will happen, and for that reason it’s always been as good as done.

    [tma opening theme] the magnus archives,,,,,,,, episode 420,,,,,,,, alas, it is i who have become the poor little meow meow,,,

    i got this funny impression the first time i listened to tma

    i mean i got several, which resulted in acute confusion between 91-111 when i realised that gerry, michael shelley, and mike crew were three distinct people (i’d somehow conflated son-of-the-bookshop-lady and lightning-guy, then the two michaels)

    but the one that really stuck out to me upon completion the first time was i’d picked up the idea that peter was evan’s dad, and it was such a confident belief that i was actually quite shocked when i realised that it wasn’t actually canonically the case. and my brain kind of didn’t give it up, and i realised that it could actually be possible? like, would it be a bit unusual for someone to give a statement and not mention a child and their other parent? yeah, potentially. would it be weird for peter lukas to be so disaffected by the fact that he fathered a son who died young that, if it didn’t relate to his compelled narrative, he wouldn’t mention it? less weird.

    i wouldn’t put it past peter to add little bits of isolation to his life wherever possible--and it sounds pretty on brand of him to tepidly develop a relationship with someone, have a kid, and then pop into the kid’s life just enough that his absence is felt. but what if it kind of backfired? what if the kid really ended up missing his father, and wondering what he was doing with all those months at sea? what if that was, for example, the thing that got the kid into marine biology, then science, then when he went away to uni the kid realised he really liked having friends? what if he knew enough about his family, his father’s family, that he knew he wanted to be an antidote to whatever his relatives were doing to the world, and he therefore tried every day never to let anyone he met feel isolated? what if he and naomi got chatting not just because they were mutually intrigued, but because evan refused to leave anyone forsaken?

    i’m not suggesting peter would do something to ensure the death of his own kid. i am suggesting i’d believe that he wouldn’t do a great deal to stop such a thing happening. i am suggesting he’d probably consider an absence like that rather an impressive offering to his god. I am suggesting he may not mention his own son without a--literally--compelling reason to do so.

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    so the idea is, what if instead of 14/15 distinct entities, it was seven spectrums, each of which contained a full presence of something and its full absence, both of which result in the manifestation of one of the tma-universe fears. like this:

  • scale: the concept of hugeness and its absence (the vast and the buried)
  • obscurity: your perceptions becoming strange, or, conversely, reality itself morphing into something unrecognisable (the spiral and the stranger)
  • permanence: the ending of your own life, or the ending of everything you have ever known (the end and the extinction)
  • isolation: being truly and completely alone, or never being alone again, being a home for what loves you (the lonely and the corruption)
  • hi im thinking about fundamental character contradictions. here are some of my favourite character contradictions.

  • i know it’s a pretty superficial one but im never not going to be tickled by peter being The Supreme Lonely Guy with his Excellently Crafted Affable Dude Persona
  • the fact that melanie cared so much about her work and her field of interest that the pursuit of it caused something to happen to her that made her disaffected and violent and angry to the exclusion of all else
  • similarly(ish) basira’s very granular, specific pursuit of knowledge (alchemy comes to mind) and how that attention to detail is exactly the thing that helps her to escape the unknowing by actively shutting out information (eye/dark basira forever)
  • daisy’s change and pursuit of recovery is the thing that is killing her
  • tim’s deep love and care for those close to him is exactly the thing that fuels his resentment and rage (the loss of danny being such a blow to him, and, later, his becoming so abruptly disillusioned with jon despite their prior relationship)